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senator harry reid expressing his frustration but no ex broke of support or promise of a another come first may be of hagel. to assess the is the situationw kt mcfarland, and dr. walid phares. senator harry reid suggestions that republican parties throwing national security to the wind. >> bologna, there have been plenty of times when u.s. has been without the secretary of defense. usually what happens is deputy secretary of defense is the acting secretary of defense, a good guy, he could be acting, are other thing, panettaas not left yet, that is bologna. that is not the argument. the fact is that two reasons that senators are opposing hagel. one is lindsay graham, and senator iaot have real questions about benghazi, and the other hand senator has questions about hagel. both of those together, are causing real problem, and a lot of the wounded on hagel are self inflicted. lou: and waleed as you read that letter from white house revealing, that the president did no contact anyone in the libyan government, that he relied upon his secretary of state, who has said she had no role in the
senator harry reid expressing his frustration but no ex broke of support or promise of a another come first may be of hagel. to assess the is the situationw kt mcfarland, and dr. walid phares. senator harry reid suggestions that republican parties throwing national security to the wind. >> bologna, there have been plenty of times when u.s. has been without the secretary of defense. usually what happens is deputy secretary of defense is the acting secretary of defense, a good guy, he could...
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harry reid ended up having to vote no. that way, by voting know he has the right to bring this back up for another vote when they come back from president's day weekend, which he will, and hopefully by that time, some republicans, one more republican, will have come to his or her senses. at any rate, it was the 55 democrats, 55 democrats and independents and four republicans came up to 59. harry reid voting no. that made it 58. so chuck hagle was not confirmed. and leon panetta is out. so we have no secretary of defense for the next 10 days and in the middle of at war. harry reid pointed out yesterday, this was his first. >> first time in the history of our country, if secretary of defense had been filibustered successfully >> bill: there is no doubt who is to blame. mitch mcconnell didn't do anything to stop it. >> to. >> just when you thought things couldn't get worse, it gets worse. >> bill: shocking, said the majority leader. >> shocking that my republican colleagues would leave the nation without a fully empowered sec
harry reid ended up having to vote no. that way, by voting know he has the right to bring this back up for another vote when they come back from president's day weekend, which he will, and hopefully by that time, some republicans, one more republican, will have come to his or her senses. at any rate, it was the 55 democrats, 55 democrats and independents and four republicans came up to 59. harry reid voting no. that made it 58. so chuck hagle was not confirmed. and leon panetta is out. so we...
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from harry reid. and from vice president biden, "today's three letter word -- l-o-v-e." we now know the recession and the euro zone is getting worse, not better. that cannot be good news for the u.s., actually. senior foreign affairs correspondent greg palkot has the story from london. >> the latest figure shows euro zone falling deeper in recession. >> europe is spluttering, stuttering and having a terrible time. >> effectively a double dip recession. some of the hardest hit country were debt-plagued spain and italy. france was sluggish. growth in germany down .6%. slow growth in economic powerhouse germany is especially worrying. the weakness is hurting the german exports. adding to economic headache, strike of security workers for higher pay snarled airports in germany today. >> he said is up it. even if i suffer for it. further come pounding problems debt-ridden countries are saddled with high unemployment. the jobless rate in greece is record 27%. i come here all the time. there are no jobs. economists say there could be some pick nun euro growth this year. that wou
from harry reid. and from vice president biden, "today's three letter word -- l-o-v-e." we now know the recession and the euro zone is getting worse, not better. that cannot be good news for the u.s., actually. senior foreign affairs correspondent greg palkot has the story from london. >> the latest figure shows euro zone falling deeper in recession. >> europe is spluttering, stuttering and having a terrible time. >> effectively a double dip recession. some of the...
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. >> john: sadly harry reid does not agree. vice president biden was in pennsylvania to push the president's gun control ban including that expanded background check and the end of the sale of large-capacity ammo clips. do you think it will go over in pennsylvania as well. >> in most states even conservatives once you'll see a split where gun violence is an every day problem and people are exposed to it and they have an issue with it. in the rural area even in a deep blue state like new york, in the rural areas where they don't see a lot of gun violence but they use their weapons for hunting you'll see them with a backdrop of officers wearing the uniform badges and they'll have scary guns on display and cher scary, showing people this is the law enforcement problem. we have a gun violence problem. police officers whether they be liberal or conservative don't want to see these weapons on the street. we need to solve it. that's playing from rural areas of kentucky to obviously to cities across the country. >> john: playing the re
. >> john: sadly harry reid does not agree. vice president biden was in pennsylvania to push the president's gun control ban including that expanded background check and the end of the sale of large-capacity ammo clips. do you think it will go over in pennsylvania as well. >> in most states even conservatives once you'll see a split where gun violence is an every day problem and people are exposed to it and they have an issue with it. in the rural area even in a deep blue state like...
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>> it was the white house and lu and neighbors who went to harry reid and say this is the solution. but everyone has their fingerprints on this. and it is everyone's -- it is the policy and it is law. what is important about it is, travesty.verning trace the idea that you are going to go around and in random ways just cut things. it would be like a family that has to cut the budget saying let's cut the medicine that keeps the children alive. it's stupid. >> chris: kim, having said that it's stupid what are the chances we are actually going to reach march 1 and the sequester, the $85 billion in automatic cuts will kick in and if it does and we begin to see marks reacting and stuff how does it play out with the president insisting there have to be tax hikes on the rich and the republicans saying no, it all needs to come out of spending cuts? >> i think it is likely that we do hit that day and that it comes and the reason why is because the republicans have been asking the white house to come up with some sort of alternative in which you actually prioritize and maybe do something on en
>> it was the white house and lu and neighbors who went to harry reid and say this is the solution. but everyone has their fingerprints on this. and it is everyone's -- it is the policy and it is law. what is important about it is, travesty.verning trace the idea that you are going to go around and in random ways just cut things. it would be like a family that has to cut the budget saying let's cut the medicine that keeps the children alive. it's stupid. >> chris: kim, having said...
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it will proceed in 11 days' time, when harry reid set the next vote. here is a statement from the white house -- as we go on, we will hear from republicans about why they voted the way they did. we will read some more in the news. but he would brandon has a say in ohio, a republican column. good morning. caller: i live in the north- central part of ohio. i believe that the republicans did the correct thing by mounting this will not to proceed. it is very frustrating for somebody like me to see the majority leader harry reid, on the senate floor and give ashe deal -- come up on the senate floor and give a temper tan trum. i do not believe the president has the right to have his defense secretary affirmed. it is the senate's job to affirm the nominee. if republican senators want to vote no, that is their choice. the majority leader should not shamed the republicans into voting yes because he thinks that is the correct thing to do. host: what do you make of the reporter we just talked to, mentioning that he may get confirmed in two weeks' time? does that
it will proceed in 11 days' time, when harry reid set the next vote. here is a statement from the white house -- as we go on, we will hear from republicans about why they voted the way they did. we will read some more in the news. but he would brandon has a say in ohio, a republican column. good morning. caller: i live in the north- central part of ohio. i believe that the republicans did the correct thing by mounting this will not to proceed. it is very frustrating for somebody like me to see...
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senator reid, harry reid, proposed legislation that would dover the sequestration to the next year. it would be paid for in a balanced way by additional revenue as well as additional -- >> tax hikes. >> indeed. >> -- cuts in spending and that's the way to proceed in avoiding the blunt across-the-board cuts and getting us chance to get back into the regular order, proposing a budget, doing an appropriations bill. >> and we should point out, it's been the democrats who have been in charge of the senate who haven't come up with a budget for the last four years so that's why we haven't had a regular one. >> he had the budget control act of 2011 which set the caps, which was budgetary and not a resolution between the two houses. we're working on a budget right now and need to get that done. we need time. the sequestration will preempt us from getting a budget done and other factors. >> it's kind of always that you guys need more time and can we put it off until next year. i guess to me it's a little bit like the fiscal cliff only now it involves the military and these men saying, we won'
senator reid, harry reid, proposed legislation that would dover the sequestration to the next year. it would be paid for in a balanced way by additional revenue as well as additional -- >> tax hikes. >> indeed. >> -- cuts in spending and that's the way to proceed in avoiding the blunt across-the-board cuts and getting us chance to get back into the regular order, proposing a budget, doing an appropriations bill. >> and we should point out, it's been the democrats who...
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if he wants to try to get the congress to introduce legislation, you know harry reid will do whatever he wants in the senate and he ought to do that. but the reason he's saying this actually, it's certainly a stop to the left and thanking them for the vote in the election and doesn't realize an important thing, 62 million people voted against him and because they're concerned about this and he himself did very little. a lot of news reports that he thinks his greatest failing in his first term is a lack of action on climate change and he spoke little about it on the campaign trail because he knows the way americans feel about that. they're not for 2 billion more dollars to go to green energy projects, new committee called the energy security trust. we already have great green initiatives in the private sector and things are working. if you tell the public, give them the action between hugging a tree and hugging a wallet, the wallet always wins and be careful. >> and we're aware that the president got more votes than the people who voted against the president. this is a situation where
if he wants to try to get the congress to introduce legislation, you know harry reid will do whatever he wants in the senate and he ought to do that. but the reason he's saying this actually, it's certainly a stop to the left and thanking them for the vote in the election and doesn't realize an important thing, 62 million people voted against him and because they're concerned about this and he himself did very little. a lot of news reports that he thinks his greatest failing in his first term...
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host: harry reid set a new vote for tuesday, in 11 days. what do republicans want to see in the meantime? guest: they say they would like answers again from the white house, more details about what the president did and did not do in the hours following the terrorist attack in libya. the white house sent a letter to senators john mccain, lindsey gramm, kelly ayotte, who have been demanding more information. they hoped from soundness yesterday or the day before that they would be able to change minds and make these centers -- senators vote yes. there is information that republicans say they want. it also seems like they were unhappy with his pick, they wanted -- wanted a different tack, and they did not -- they did not want to be conciliatory about it. host: 1 vote for present. why did they go that way? guest: senator hatch of voted present. it beats me why he did. you either vote yes or no. there is a rumor that he did not believe in the filibuster. if you do not believe in the filibuster, you should probably vote yes. republican leadership
host: harry reid set a new vote for tuesday, in 11 days. what do republicans want to see in the meantime? guest: they say they would like answers again from the white house, more details about what the president did and did not do in the hours following the terrorist attack in libya. the white house sent a letter to senators john mccain, lindsey gramm, kelly ayotte, who have been demanding more information. they hoped from soundness yesterday or the day before that they would be able to change...
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harry reid could bring them back tomorrow. our country's military and service is so much more important than vacation. come on back and get pizza and something to drink and bang it out and they are not doing that and that is shameful. former stiantor scott brown, great to stee you, thank you. >> senator lindsay graham made news on fox news sunday. brand new information about an old speech by chuck hagel. the latest on the confirmation is next . calling the president obama the biggest set of law breakerings. the virginia attorney general is not pulling punches. talk about regulation over load coming up. hi. hi. i'm here to pick up some cacti. it should be under stephens. the verizon share everything plan for small business. get a shareable pool of data... got enough joshua trees? ... on up to 25 devices. so you can spend less time... yea, the golden barrels... managing wireless costs and technology and more time driving your business potential. looks like we're going to need to order more agaves... ah! oh! ow! ... and more band
harry reid could bring them back tomorrow. our country's military and service is so much more important than vacation. come on back and get pizza and something to drink and bang it out and they are not doing that and that is shameful. former stiantor scott brown, great to stee you, thank you. >> senator lindsay graham made news on fox news sunday. brand new information about an old speech by chuck hagel. the latest on the confirmation is next . calling the president obama the biggest set...
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the same can be said for bush for the republicans and harry reid. >> they did not filibuster them. >> that sets a dangerous precede precedent. >> by the way, alex, i blame harry reid and the democrats, too. we had a chance at the beginning of the congress. we had a chance to make real filibuster reform and we took a pass. >> okay. you make a good point there. let's listen to john mccain talking about immigration. here it is. >> the president, obviously has some thoughts about immigration reform which he drafted and guided his agencies to comment on. if the president proposes legislation, do you think it will fail? >> of course. of course it will. that is why we are working together, republicans and democrats, by the way he had no communications with the congress. i believe we are making progress in a bipartisan basis. >> does this sound like republicans saying no for any of the president's proposals? >> no. >> no. >> my problem with president obama is alex, he does not negotiate with republicans. he doesn't bring the leadership up to talk to him. he doesn't make phone calls. >> does h
the same can be said for bush for the republicans and harry reid. >> they did not filibuster them. >> that sets a dangerous precede precedent. >> by the way, alex, i blame harry reid and the democrats, too. we had a chance at the beginning of the congress. we had a chance to make real filibuster reform and we took a pass. >> okay. you make a good point there. let's listen to john mccain talking about immigration. here it is. >> the president, obviously has some...
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and i will point out on this question, i agree with senator harry reid. when it came to the nomination of john bold, and in a of members of this body asked for additional disclosures from john bolton, and those disclosures were not forthcoming. harry reid said the following, the administration stonewalling has no one had the effect of slowing down the confirmation process, it has also put a further cloud over this individual and perhaps unnecessarily, raised the impression that the nominee and the white house have something to hide. i don't know if mr. hagel has received funds directly or indirectly from foreign sources, from extreme sources, but his refusal to provide disclosure i think is highly troubling. and i would suggest every member of this committee and every member of this body should stand together and at least insisting on adequate disclosure. i'll make one final point. some have asked, would you make the same request of a republican nominee? i'll point out you can chuck hagel is a republican. i don't know him personally, unlike many members o
and i will point out on this question, i agree with senator harry reid. when it came to the nomination of john bold, and in a of members of this body asked for additional disclosures from john bolton, and those disclosures were not forthcoming. harry reid said the following, the administration stonewalling has no one had the effect of slowing down the confirmation process, it has also put a further cloud over this individual and perhaps unnecessarily, raised the impression that the nominee and...
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you've got republican senators miffed at harry reid for not honoring the whole -- you have him having ripped on republicans. there are so many issues at play here. looks like he's going to get confirmed. and it's also an opportunity for republicans to ask some tough questions on benghazi, all of which haven't been answered yet. >> i want to go to something you said when we were together last time, which is you were concerned about his performance -- >> absolutely. >> and you can't help by wonder what bill cohen wonders, which is is he going to be a weak secretary? >> he didn't have a strong hearing then, but all the reasons listed for chuck hagel, none has to do with any pending issues before the pentagon. it has to do with he's been mean to president bush. he's been mean to john mccain. this process has said more about republicans than quite franklin it has said about chuck -- >> what about this issue of him -- is he going to be in charge of the pentagon? >> i think that is going to be the test for chuck hagel when he is sworn in fairly quickly and fairly soon as the next defense sec
you've got republican senators miffed at harry reid for not honoring the whole -- you have him having ripped on republicans. there are so many issues at play here. looks like he's going to get confirmed. and it's also an opportunity for republicans to ask some tough questions on benghazi, all of which haven't been answered yet. >> i want to go to something you said when we were together last time, which is you were concerned about his performance -- >> absolutely. >> and you...
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but democrats suggest that they're doing the country a disservice, near is harry reid. >> and press center unwarranted to stop or attempt to try to stop the secretary of defense and the cia director. we need the men and women need the secretary of defense, chuck hagel's imminently qualified to be that secretary of defense. >> and jack reed of rhode island and the senate armed services committee postponed a vote on hagel until this week and it could come up as early as this coming week, harris. >> anybody who thought this issue was going away, woefully underestimated it. steve centanni, part of the opposition of john brennan to head the cia is his role in creating a controversial drone program. it targets the suspected terrorists including those who and reveals that americans overseas can be targeted for killing without any kind of court order. officials simply have to determine that that person is a terror leader and a serious threat to the united states, and then it would be too dangerous to try to capture that person. tonight, lawmakers on both sides of the aisle speaking out about the i
but democrats suggest that they're doing the country a disservice, near is harry reid. >> and press center unwarranted to stop or attempt to try to stop the secretary of defense and the cia director. we need the men and women need the secretary of defense, chuck hagel's imminently qualified to be that secretary of defense. >> and jack reed of rhode island and the senate armed services committee postponed a vote on hagel until this week and it could come up as early as this coming...
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but of course, harry reid caved. that's another story in itself. so nothing has really changed. all you have to do is look at the chuck hagel situation in the senate to see just how bad everything is right now. but i want you to imagine liberals, just imagine what it would be like if we had 60 senators like this. >> i'm really concerned that too big to fail has become too big for trial. that just seems wrong to me. >> it sure does. newly elected senator from massachusetts elizabeth warren is doing what she promised to do. she is ready to lead the way on accountability for the financial industry, and for good reason. you see, the federal reserve says the 2008 financial collapse cost this country 38.8% of its net worth. despite the massive fraud and recklessness of the banks, the number of executives prosecuted for this crisis zero. before today, there is no accountability. now, the frank/dodd financial regulation bill was watered down and not fully implemented. senator warren used her first banking committee hearing to take on the regulators who were supposed to be enforcing the
but of course, harry reid caved. that's another story in itself. so nothing has really changed. all you have to do is look at the chuck hagel situation in the senate to see just how bad everything is right now. but i want you to imagine liberals, just imagine what it would be like if we had 60 senators like this. >> i'm really concerned that too big to fail has become too big for trial. that just seems wrong to me. >> it sure does. newly elected senator from massachusetts elizabeth...
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harry reid, let's talk than filibuster again, dude. this is just another hostage situation for the republicans. they can hurt the poor and the working class in this country, the sequester, no doubt about it, unless the president gives them exactly what they want. >> if you want to look at ways to find $1.2 trillion in savings over the next decade, let's look at obama care. let's don't destroy the military and just cut blindly across the board. >> sure. let's forget about the 30, maybe 40 million people who are going to get health insurance in this country because of obama care. see, these republicans, my friends, are living in a fantasy world. the president and senate democrats once again have offered a plan with cuts in new revenue. but the gop is ready to deny history. you see, they're saying that spending doesn't stimulate the economy, and that they basically are sticking to that argument. house speaker john boehner continues to say spending? what's the big problem? it's amazing john boehner can identify any problems considering how
harry reid, let's talk than filibuster again, dude. this is just another hostage situation for the republicans. they can hurt the poor and the working class in this country, the sequester, no doubt about it, unless the president gives them exactly what they want. >> if you want to look at ways to find $1.2 trillion in savings over the next decade, let's look at obama care. let's don't destroy the military and just cut blindly across the board. >> sure. let's forget about the 30,...
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there was a gentleman who called an earlier demonstrating -- denigrating harry reid. but also bring up the fact that the senate has been redefined with new rules by the republicans to have a super majority rather than the 51 that is necessary. they had dictated it is 60 votes necessary. that is why he has not been able to get anything done. the only thing harry reid is guilty of is not rearranging the filibuster rules that would be advantageous to the american public. i have a sticker on my car that says "keeping millions out of work to put one man out of a job." that has been the republican agenda all along. president obama is doing what he is doing not at his whim but at the majority of the people's women. host: john, a republican and color. the head. caller: -- republican caller. go ahead. caller: i do not have a problem with president of? using the the executive order. george washington used the executive order. harry truman used the executive order. i might disagree with some of the things that president obama does, but i will not say that he has become a dictato
there was a gentleman who called an earlier demonstrating -- denigrating harry reid. but also bring up the fact that the senate has been redefined with new rules by the republicans to have a super majority rather than the 51 that is necessary. they had dictated it is 60 votes necessary. that is why he has not been able to get anything done. the only thing harry reid is guilty of is not rearranging the filibuster rules that would be advantageous to the american public. i have a sticker on my car...
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harry reid says the full senate could vote on the nomination as early as tomorrow. hagel, former republican senator from nebraska, faces strong opposition from fellow republicans. >>> north korea thumbing its nose at the u.s. and the international community by carrying out a new, more powerful nuclear test. it is the first one under leader kim jong-un. president obama calls it a threat to the u.s. security and world peace. the first indication of the underground test came when seismologists detected a tremor in an area that is not known for earthquakes into in jerusalem, ten women detained at the western wall. one of them happens to be the sister of comedian sarah silverman. police detained rabbi silverman praying at the wall wearing a prayer shawl only worn by men. they were released several hours later. i don't care much for people who use religion as a cloak to justify hatred, injustice and fear and i can't imagine god, should he or she or it exist, does either. i am so proud of my sister and niece for nighting for what they believe in, by having nerve to pray at
harry reid says the full senate could vote on the nomination as early as tomorrow. hagel, former republican senator from nebraska, faces strong opposition from fellow republicans. >>> north korea thumbing its nose at the u.s. and the international community by carrying out a new, more powerful nuclear test. it is the first one under leader kim jong-un. president obama calls it a threat to the u.s. security and world peace. the first indication of the underground test came when...
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john boehner and harry reid met last week, and they emerged from the meeting saying the same line that they're saying publicly to reporters. they said privately. the senate needs to move is john boehner's message sfwloosh the fact is that both sides blaming the other. they all signed on because the sequester was approved as a matter of legislation, but it was, as bob woodward reports in his book, it was a white house proposal to the hill to get past a previous budget crisis. >> one of the most curious lines in washington right now that this is obama's sequester. yes, the president might have proposed it. house republicans pushed it through their chamber, and the senate pushed it through the senate. it's really everybody's responsibility. all hands were on deck in 2011 when they did this. now, both sides have political advantages to stay where they are. the senate needs taxes. house republicans cannot put any tax revenue in this equation because john boehner passed tax increases with the fiscal cliff and cannot afford to do it again politically. it's too difficult for him. >> what about
john boehner and harry reid met last week, and they emerged from the meeting saying the same line that they're saying publicly to reporters. they said privately. the senate needs to move is john boehner's message sfwloosh the fact is that both sides blaming the other. they all signed on because the sequester was approved as a matter of legislation, but it was, as bob woodward reports in his book, it was a white house proposal to the hill to get past a previous budget crisis. >> one of the...
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we're talking about whether or not senate majority leader harry reid is willing to put those democrats at risk and also then put at risk control of the senate because republicans have fewer people who were running, who will be running in 14 and fewer people who are at risk. though again, the dynamic is very difficult for the democrats and here's a vote that would expose them to great political costs. jon: let's take, let's take another listen at one of the things the president said last night. >> and i know you want these job-creating projects in your district. i've seen all those ribbon cuttings. jon: according to "politico" what he meant was, republicans give me flak for proposing stimulus programs but they all show up to take the credit. talk about hypocritical. translation, the president made this remark as he renewed his push for more government spending on infrastructure projects, modernizing the public schools and building high-speed rail and internet. the question, juan, is do we have the money to do all that stuff? >> well, you know, as the white house yesterday and they were
we're talking about whether or not senate majority leader harry reid is willing to put those democrats at risk and also then put at risk control of the senate because republicans have fewer people who were running, who will be running in 14 and fewer people who are at risk. though again, the dynamic is very difficult for the democrats and here's a vote that would expose them to great political costs. jon: let's take, let's take another listen at one of the things the president said last night....
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so that's mitch mcconnell, harry reid, nancy pelosi and john boehner. in response i think to the number of democrats and the first lady bringing victims of gun violence with them as guests to the state of the union this year, to highlight that issue, one republican member of congress this year has decided to do his part to advance the serious consideration of gun violence and lawful gun ownership in america by inviting as his guest for the state of the union this gentleman. >> mr. ted nugent is a musician. i believe he is still mostly known for "cat scratch fever", but i could be wrong. he was investigated by the secret service last year after telling an nra convention in april of 2012, quote, if barack obama is elected, i'll either be dead or in jail this time next year." texas congressman steve stockman has invited ted nugent to be his guest for the state of the union. but if you think about what he got in trouble for with the secret service last year, barack obama's elected i'll either be dead or in jail this time next year, if you think about that,
so that's mitch mcconnell, harry reid, nancy pelosi and john boehner. in response i think to the number of democrats and the first lady bringing victims of gun violence with them as guests to the state of the union this year, to highlight that issue, one republican member of congress this year has decided to do his part to advance the serious consideration of gun violence and lawful gun ownership in america by inviting as his guest for the state of the union this gentleman. >> mr. ted...
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reid. therein lies the potential problem where the more moderate democrats are going to have to step aside and stand down. >> and you look at that $4 trillion number. in the president's proposal is also including things like interest savings, more savings that are set to wind down anyway, and you look at the $4 trillion. it really only stabilizes debt to gdp ratio over the next decade or so off panama. the entitlement spending, medicare, medicaid, not doing their analysis of what the ten years after the next decade look like when it comes to the full entitlement boom that goes on from there, there are some major deficit and debt problems that are going to hit the federal budget in just the next 10-15 years alone. so the whole debate as to how big a problem deficit reduction is, jay carney a couple of weeks ago said it is not a goal of itself. just deficit reduction. i think the president clarified that a little bit this evening with a comment you just mentioned, neil. there is that ques
reid. therein lies the potential problem where the more moderate democrats are going to have to step aside and stand down. >> and you look at that $4 trillion number. in the president's proposal is also including things like interest savings, more savings that are set to wind down anyway, and you look at the $4 trillion. it really only stabilizes debt to gdp ratio over the next decade or so off panama. the entitlement spending, medicare, medicaid, not doing their analysis of what the ten...